***** Archive Page 4 ***** This is the archive board for the Tons of Kids Forum. This board is for viewing purposes only - posting has been disabled. To respond to messages or post a new thread, please join us on the Current Board **Go to** Site Home Page Main Forum Mega Families Forum Member Mini-Profiles You are not logged in. Please log in or create an account. *User Colors* Registered, Guest, Staff.   [ Help ] [ Rules of Play ] [ Current Board ] [ Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5] [ Post ] Total Messages = 560 Last entry posted on: 10/26/2008 22:26:57 CDT 48. Ok- now this is the way it should be. Hysterical! - zookeeper 10/26/2008 15:43:29 CDT (0) 47. I came across a blog posting that can make EVERYONE think, on both sides: - zookeeper 10/25/2008 22:58:20 CDT (5) Under Obama, MY family is considered "needy" and we will not only get free healthcare, but CHECKS in the mail. Foolishness. (BTW, the rich, Hollywood elite are supporting Obama. I guess HE addresses their needs best.) (nt) - YankeeMom 10/26/2008 08:33:58 CDT (2) And who pays for the free healthcare & checks? Yeah, I think Obama's proposed healthcare plan is horrible. (nt) - kpmomof7 10/26/2008 12:10:29 CDT (0) Do you have health insurance? We do. And under McCain, we would be taxed on our employee benefits that the company pays - that's another $14K in income to pay taxes on. No thanks. (nt) - zookeeper 10/26/2008 15:50:28 CDT (0) Having been "one step down to destitution" I can say - leenieseven 10/26/2008 08:51:58 CDT (2) This is beautiful Charlene. Well said. (nt) - thequeenbeam 10/26/2008 09:10:04 CDT (0) Well said. Very well said. (nt) - wildrose 10/26/2008 09:20:51 CDT (0) In my opinion, very few in this country actually know what "poor" is . .. .(m) - wildrose 10/26/2008 09:17:06 CDT (5) I agree with you......m - luvinmylife 10/26/2008 11:42:35 CDT (1) And the wealthier are far far more wealthy than back then. (nt) - zookeeper 10/26/2008 13:55:08 CDT (0) My mother left her homeland with me and my brother so that we could partake of the opportunities and religious freedom that America offered (More) - serenunlogged 10/26/2008 12:33:03 CDT (1) I'm sorry. I think you have misunderstood my intent . . . (m) - wildrose 10/26/2008 15:11:58 CDT (1) Yes, thank you for your response post, and I appreciate it, however (more) - serenunlogged 10/26/2008 15:29:47 CDT (1) No problem. I'm glad we are able to understand each other. (nt) - wildrose 10/26/2008 15:43:02 CDT (1) Same here. Glad that ALL of us can talk about things that are important and meaningful because we all have to live side by side in this world and get along by understanding where we're all coming from. Thank you for that. :) (nt) - serenunlogged 10/26/2008 15:48:29 CDT (0) the poor need immediate assistance and long term training/education, etc, not more and bigger handouts to further imbed the entitlement mindset. (nt) - nancys6kids1dog 10/26/2008 12:55:19 CDT (2) The poor aren't necessarily uneducated. And not all poor people have an entitlement mentality. I disagree with those stereotypes. (nt) - kpmomof7 10/26/2008 14:43:56 CDT (0) The answer is far more complicated than that. . . .(m) - wildrose 10/26/2008 15:27:27 CDT (0) My dad was born in 1925 and my mom in 1931 and they talk of the same thing (m) - leenieseven 10/26/2008 14:03:01 CDT (1) Really? Your dad and mom talk about wanting people to experience the pain and poverty of the Great Depression? Do they ever talk about giving up their Social Security and Medicare? (nt) - serenunlogged 10/26/2008 15:12:33 CDT (4) This question also goes to the OP who's dad said that people need a good depression every once in a while to straighten them out. (nt) - serenunlogged 10/26/2008 15:15:33 CDT (1) Don't worry about it - you explained it in your response post to me (more) - serenunlogged 10/26/2008 15:35:03 CDT (1) We seem to be posting at the same time! lol Oh, and for what it's worth . . . (m) - wildrose 10/26/2008 15:46:21 CDT (1) I feel the same way. Things get sort of complicated here (more) - serenunlogged 10/26/2008 15:54:01 CDT (0) I posted above but just want to add that . . . (m) - wildrose 10/26/2008 15:40:30 CDT (1) Well, I'm going to keep moving forwards instead of backwards and in doing so I agree with our many blessings in this county, yet (more) - serenunlogged 10/26/2008 16:35:45 CDT (1) I didn't realize . . . (m) - wildrose 10/26/2008 17:33:35 CDT (1) I don't know the specifics of each and every case (of course), but for us, coming to America in 1968, my mom worked menial labor jobs (more) - serenunlogged 10/26/2008 20:18:55 CDT (0) Holy Cow! What in the world? I NEVER said that! (nt) - leenieseven 10/26/2008 16:50:18 CDT (1) She was talking to me, but all has been cleared up now. (nt) - wildrose 10/26/2008 16:52:55 CDT (1) ... (nt) - leenieseven 10/26/2008 16:55:37 CDT (0) Actually my dad refuses his and lives in pretty close to poverty. His choice. (nt) - joyofsix 10/26/2008 18:14:58 CDT (0) Hate to break it to you- but just because you meet income guidelines for state or federal assistance, does not mean you are poor. There's a difference between low income and poor. - zookeeper 10/26/2008 15:00:49 CDT (1) How does $20,000 a year sound to you? Is that "poor" enough? (m) - wildrose 10/26/2008 16:17:25 CDT (2) One more thing . . . (m) - wildrose 10/26/2008 16:23:50 CDT (1) Stop it! You're killing me, Jen. You had me at the first post with your parents purchasing your house and car. Did you have to mention more? (more) - serenunlogged 10/26/2008 16:54:30 CDT (2) By the way, this is a "mischievous" icon, not angry. Hope that you know that I'm kidding and just having fun with you! :) (nt) - serenunlogged 10/26/2008 16:56:44 CDT (0) You know . . . (m) - wildrose 10/26/2008 17:26:14 CDT (2) I don't know who the people are that think that you've got it so great; I didn't think that (more) - serenunlogged 10/26/2008 21:10:28 CDT (0) But Jen- you are passing the same judgement on others who may look nice on the outside. That's my WHOLE point. I don't judge you for how you live, I am probably envious because I would love to have the family support you do. But if you judge and assume and stereotype others, it's ignoring that there is a problem out there. (nt) - zookeeper 10/26/2008 21:27:48 CDT (0) Take a step back and think about everything you just said: - zookeeper 10/26/2008 20:06:38 CDT (1) "Today, about 20 percent of America’s children – 13.5 percent of all Americans – live in what is a very flawed federal measure of poverty whose parameters haven’t been changed in more than four decades." (nt) - zookeeper 10/26/2008 21:42:21 CDT (0) I did not read the entire post because I got angry about the "hospitals going under".... - DebJZ 10/26/2008 09:54:10 CDT (2) Debbie, I agree with you 100%, regardless of your eloquence (which I think was fine). (m) - kpmomof7 10/26/2008 12:09:21 CDT (1) one of dh's bills was approx $40,000 - insur. pd approx $10,000 - period, done. - now if not insured, and I somehow did have the $10,000 they would consider that a downpayment and still want the rest! (nt) - nancys6kids1dog 10/26/2008 12:52:37 CDT (1) Yep, and they'd send you to collections if you couldn't pay it off in *their* timeframe, too! (nt) - kpmomof7 10/26/2008 14:45:00 CDT (1) On a much smaller, but still telling scale, I have a peak flow meter for my asthma. (m) - karin 10/26/2008 22:26:57 CDT (0) Well, this logic is flawed though. Because- - zookeeper 10/26/2008 15:27:16 CDT (0) Why do the people assume if you are republican you don't care about the poor?.....m - luvinmylife 10/26/2008 11:47:53 CDT (3) Amen! (nt) - kpmomof7 10/26/2008 12:11:05 CDT (1) For that matter, why do people assume that if you're Republican, you can't be poor, yourself? It's not like every person voting Republican in this election is wealthy! I'm not! (nt) - kpmomof7 10/26/2008 12:26:00 CDT (1) Amen to both of you. (nt) - joyofsix 10/26/2008 18:18:08 CDT (0) Before I go to the library and take my kids, I'm going to say it flat out and straight: Being truly poor sucks and if anyone has a problem with that statement, I'm sorry. And to respond to your comment and to the comments of the others under you (more) - serenunlogged 10/26/2008 12:41:38 CDT (0) This article addressed both sides of the aisle. Not just Republicans. (nt) - zookeeper 10/26/2008 13:38:45 CDT (1) It is surprising though... - DebJZ 10/26/2008 20:51:35 CDT (0) 46. The Ant and The Grasshopper - leenieseven 10/25/2008 13:33:50 CDT (2) Good one! (nt) - kateunlogged 10/25/2008 15:25:57 CDT (0) Well, I guess that could be accurate- if we really were "every man (bug) for himself". (nt) - zookeeper 10/25/2008 20:22:40 CDT (0) 45. I am curious what my fellow Catholic McCain supporters think of this. - zookeeper 10/25/2008 12:52:57 CDT (3) That was the fakest thing I've ever seen. Someone is extremely desperate. (nt) - YankeeMom 10/25/2008 13:01:18 CDT (1) Not a joke. If you google, you will find plenty of info on Mendez and Wathee. These people are truly frightening! - zookeeper 10/25/2008 21:49:31 CDT (1) I'm not scared of some foreign Exorcist. And I'm certainly not conived by that shaky video that Palin has anything to do with him. (nt) - YankeeMom 10/26/2008 08:01:02 CDT (0) Call me dense but . . . (m) - wildrose 10/25/2008 14:51:33 CDT (1) Jen- see my additional links. This is not "just another Protestant". According to her Mary is a "demonic power misinterpreted by Christians". - zookeeper 10/25/2008 21:30:36 CDT (2) Questions and more ramblings. .. .(m) - wildrose 10/25/2008 22:46:44 CDT (0) Well, what about Obama's beliefs? He spent 20 years being "discipled" (his word) by the leader of a racist church and his religious associations are "tarnished", too. (m) - kateunlogged 10/26/2008 03:55:18 CDT (1) Like I said, according to most Protestants, we all need to be "saved" - never mind that their churches only started when they left the Catholic Church. (No hard feelings. I know how things are but also know my history so I am able to be unshaken in my faith.) (nt) - wildrose 10/26/2008 08:50:32 CDT (2) Incidently . . .(m) - wildrose 10/26/2008 09:34:07 CDT (1) I'm not insulting the mother of Jesus. I do disagree with her being placed on the same "level" (for lack of a better word) as Jesus/God after her death, though. (m) - kpmomof7 10/26/2008 12:23:28 CDT (2) One other thing. I mentioned this conversation to my husband and with regards to your question of how could a sinless person like Jesus be placed to grow in a sinful woman, his answer is (m) - kpmomof7 10/26/2008 14:42:39 CDT (2) Actually, the RC church believes Mary was born without original sin. The rest of us are born with it. (nt) - zookeeper 10/26/2008 15:07:42 CDT (0) It's a fundamendal difference in beliefs and, in some cases, a misunderstanding. . . (m) - wildrose 10/26/2008 16:51:15 CDT (2) Oh, one important thing I forgot . . . (m) - wildrose 10/26/2008 17:15:56 CDT (1) But being forgiven of sin is not the same about being sinless. Jesus never sinned. Mary had to be forgiven of sin (just like every other human being). If Mary was sinless from birth, then why did she need her own son to save her? (nt) - kpmomof7 10/26/2008 19:54:51 CDT (1) No, see Mary didn't need to be forgiven of sin. She was sinless from birth and remained sinless. - zookeeper 10/26/2008 20:28:56 CDT (0) The difference, Jen, is that I don't ask dead people to pray for me! Yes, I ask friends and family who are ALIVE, but not dead ones, because dead people can't intercede on my behalf but living people can. (nt) - kpmomof7 10/26/2008 19:52:32 CDT (2) Also, with regards to your analogy about how kids come to mom and ask her to ask Dad, Mary isn't the mother of everyone ~ just Jesus (and her other kids). (m) - kpmomof7 10/26/2008 20:04:19 CDT (1) Other kids?? I think the difference can be explained with vocabulary. We venerate Mary. We adore God. - zookeeper 10/26/2008 20:44:46 CDT (0) Those who have been received and are one with Christ can. - zookeeper 10/26/2008 21:03:19 CDT (0) Oh my gosh- I can't believe you are saing Palin's freaky pastor is "ok" to associate with and it's better she hasn't denounced him, and that Obama's freaky pastor isn't okay but it's bad he did denounce him. (nt) - zookeeper 10/26/2008 15:04:06 CDT (1) That isn't what I was saying at all & I think you know it. (nt) - kpmomof7 10/26/2008 16:45:54 CDT (0) Well said. Which is why I asked the question of other Catholics and not "anyone", because if you don't have the history and the belief, you can't see where I was coming from and the answer is jaded to approval of this woman. (nt) - zookeeper 10/26/2008 15:14:06 CDT (0) Yeah, something else put out by the "elite liberal media", or maybe the "regular liberal media", or the "liberal left media", or ...am I missing anything else? Have there been any more medias invented by Palin in the last few weeks? (more) - serenunlogged 10/26/2008 08:01:10 CDT (1) I think there is a video- youtube, gotta love it- of Murthee "blessing" her to protect her from "all forms of witchcraft". (nt) - zookeeper 10/26/2008 15:05:52 CDT (0) 44. Happy, Happy Birthday Jenn (msjennbug)!!!!! Hope you have a fabuluous birthday today. Have a piece of cake for me. (nt) - live4truth13 10/25/2008 09:44:44 CDT (5) Happy Birthday!!!! (nt) - zookeeper 10/25/2008 09:52:55 CDT (0) Happy Birthday! (nt) - nancys6kids1dog 10/25/2008 11:36:04 CDT (0) Happy Birthday!!! (nt) - Christine 10/25/2008 14:42:55 CDT (0) happy birthday (nt) - karan 10/25/2008 17:02:47 CDT (0) TY. I had wonderful cheesecake made by my cousin.... yummmmmy. (nt) - msjennbug 10/25/2008 23:45:05 CDT (0) 43. I got a deal today! Wish I would have had my coupon though... - DebJZ 10/24/2008 16:05:27 CDT (3) Well, My big gripe is the ever shrinking sizes. As for frugality, all those people who have laughed at me for years are now asking me questions. At least I was cutting edge in something. (nt) - joyofsix 10/24/2008 17:26:02 CDT (0) I purchased two skirts and a shirt for less than $10 today - msjennbug 10/24/2008 19:28:18 CDT (0) Definitely not a good deal - the incredibly shrinking eggs! The large eggs I buy are noticably smaller. The price tags sure aren't though. (nt) - wildrose 10/24/2008 21:13:51 CDT (0) 42. Jenn - how's life in SoCal? - we're dealing w/ a forest fire here in the State Park (many miles from me out in the pineys) but the smoke is AWFUL! - burns the eyes. - hope all has died down out there! (nt) - nancys6kids1dog 10/24/2008 13:26:56 CDT (1) We live northeast of Philly and boy could we smell it last night. Some of the fire alarms in our school builds went off from the smoke! Can't imagine how bad it must be if we're this far away and feel the effects. (nt) - blairzoo-unlog 10/24/2008 18:36:50 CDT (0) 41. Meal ideas for....sandwich meats. Aside from sandwiches or chef salads. - zookeeper 10/24/2008 12:44:46 CDT (7) Roll ups with tortillas, chopped up in soup, added to omlette (nt) - Veronica 10/24/2008 13:07:47 CDT (0) French Dip! Calzones! You can combine them with all kinds of things and wrap them in bread dough for hot-pocket type rolls. Stir-fry it with lots of different stuff for fajitas, over rice, or even as taco meat! Wish I got such a great deal! (And palm trees and sunshine, too??? Quitcher whining! LOL!) (nt) - Nosewiper 10/24/2008 13:19:27 CDT (1) And casseroles, too! Really, anyplace you'd used cooked meat of any sort. (nt) - Nosewiper 10/24/2008 13:20:39 CDT (0) Yep, casseroles, in gravy, soup, about anything I'd think. (nt) - joyofsix 10/24/2008 13:59:48 CDT (0) Roll out pizza dough into a rectangle. Layer meat followed by cheese. Roll it up to form a long roll and bake at 425 for about 12-15 minutes or until golden. - Ranae 10/24/2008 15:02:48 CDT (0) I had a reuben casserole recently.. - DebJZ 10/24/2008 15:57:43 CDT (0) Casserole type dishes for sure! Ham & scalloped potatoes, I make another one with - live4truth13 10/24/2008 16:36:36 CDT (0) fritatta! (egg, potato pie with whatever is left over in fridge essentially) Look it up!! (nt) - 7sunflowers 10/24/2008 22:35:08 CDT (0) 40. touchy subject that I need help with (m) - postasguest 10/24/2008 12:35:40 CDT (2) My first instinct is to run far away - msjennbug 10/24/2008 14:42:20 CDT (0) Yikes> - nancys6kids1dog 10/24/2008 15:33:30 CDT (2) I like Nancy's advice. I wanted to add- - zookeeper 10/24/2008 15:52:35 CDT (0) I'm parking here. Nancy said it so much more nicely than I could. (nt) - joyofsix 10/24/2008 17:21:36 CDT (0) 39. Lawsuit challenges Barack Obama's US citizenship. (m) - kpmomof7 10/24/2008 11:35:18 CDT (3) This is old. Pretty sure he's presented a birth certificate for HI, and the state of HI has verified its authenticity. (nt) - zookeeper 10/24/2008 11:38:23 CDT (1) Well, the article said he had until October 15th to show the court his birth certificate & he hadn't done it, so I think it's recent. The birth certificate wasn't authenticated, far as I know. (nt) - kpmomof7 10/24/2008 13:50:26 CDT (0) another link> - nancys6kids1dog 10/24/2008 13:21:13 CDT (1) That's very interesting, Nancy. His grandmother confirms his Kenyan birth, even? Wow. I wonder if it's true. (nt) - kpmomof7 10/24/2008 13:51:40 CDT (1) I have to believe that in this day and age that someone c checked all of this out long ago - but its interesting that it still lives on. (nt) - nancys6kids1dog 10/24/2008 14:11:06 CDT (0) Here's the link to the lengthy discussion on the archived board (m) - DebJZ 10/24/2008 16:23:50 CDT (1) Oh, I'm sorry I didn't read the archived board. Thanks for providing the link, Deb! (nt) - kateunlogged 10/24/2008 22:19:16 CDT (0) 38. And my last venture into the weird today. - zookeeper 10/24/2008 11:33:15 CDT (2) Ooh, and then they can prescribe even more drugs to treat the indigestion! Double prizes! LOL (seriously, that's an interesting link) (nt) - kpmomof7 10/24/2008 11:38:02 CDT (0) ooohhh I would much rather eat than take blood pressure meds. (nt) - karan 10/24/2008 15:33:32 CDT (0) 37. The Fonz. Who's going to argue with The Fonz?! - zookeeper 10/24/2008 11:00:36 CDT (4) Nah, the question is, who's going to take a television character's opinion seriously? LOL (m) - kpmomof7 10/24/2008 11:06:30 CDT (2) I'm not sure anyone in politics is in touch with real life either. (nt) - zookeeper 10/24/2008 11:27:27 CDT (1) But who's to say my "real life" should be someone else's? Just look at magazines, and high society columns, and entrepenurial and money and travel magazines. There are large, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of folks who DO live this way. I'm sure they think their world is more "real" than ours. I just thought it was so great seeing them do those roles! (nt) - zookeeper 10/24/2008 11:30:06 CDT (1) Yeah, and they can't relate to middle class America, either. (nt) - kpmomof7 10/24/2008 11:36:29 CDT (1) You lost me Kate, because I thought we were talking about middle class America vs. Hollywood. (nt) - zookeeper 10/24/2008 11:48:17 CDT (1) I thought you were referring to the upper-class (in addition to Hollywood types) who can afford to live lavish lifestyles and never have to worry about money. (m) - kpmomof7 10/24/2008 13:54:34 CDT (1) Gotchya- I was referring to Hollywood/upperclass being one in the same. (nt) - zookeeper 10/24/2008 15:32:19 CDT (0) Ha! Kate and I feel the same about Holly***, LOL. (I was surprised by how good Henry Winkler still looked in that role. I thought he had aged so much, guess not!) (nt) - YankeeMom 10/24/2008 12:08:01 CDT (1) He looked younger than Ron Howard! (nt) - zookeeper 10/24/2008 15:56:05 CDT (0) Lol, I don't think I'm going to follow Opie anywhere! - Kangaunlog 10/24/2008 11:58:28 CDT (3) Well said, Kanga. If Howard wants "change", then no doubt he wants to boot the Dems out of Congress, too, right? (nt) - YankeeMom 10/24/2008 12:09:56 CDT (0) Ah yes...Clinton...and the Democratic Congress during his Presidency. If only they didn't de-regulate Wall Street and the Banking Systems. - zookeeper 10/24/2008 12:35:57 CDT (1) I'll agree to not blame the current Democratic congress for current conditions wholly if you'll agree to not blame Bush & the Republicans in the same manner. Only seems fair, as it's taken a lot of people making a lot of bad decisions to get us where we currently are. (nt) - kpmomof7 10/24/2008 14:07:10 CDT (1) I don't blame one person. Or one faction of people. I blame bad policies, approved by those people who approved them. I'm sure there's enough blame to go around for everyone. (nt) - zookeeper 10/24/2008 15:34:32 CDT (0) Dang, Kanga, this was well-said!!! I wish more people saw past Obama's smoke & mirrors to realize there's no substance there. (nt) - kpmomof7 10/24/2008 14:03:38 CDT (0) Normally I would find that funny, but it's hard to (AGAIN) listen to the Hollyweird Kool-Aid drinkers. How stupid they think Americans are to go for "change", not realizing that things could be WORSE. Much worse. (nt) - YankeeMom 10/24/2008 12:06:19 CDT (1) Surely you didn't mean to just say someone else's political views were "stupid". As much as we disagree politically, I respect that you are entitled to your opinion and vote and the right to try to get others to vote with you, just as is everyone else (nt) - zookeeper 10/24/2008 12:14:44 CDT (1) No, I said they think WE (Americans) are stupid. (I'm talking about Hollyweird.) (nt) - YankeeMom 10/24/2008 12:28:51 CDT (1) Right. So the Americans who are going for change are stupid. Thanks for clarifying. (nt) - zookeeper 10/24/2008 12:40:52 CDT (1) LOL, seems like you are determined to own that one. (nt) - YankeeMom 10/24/2008 13:03:51 CDT (0) As much as I disagree with most of the celebs' opinions, I have to wonder how much pressure they are feeling (m) - leenieseven 10/24/2008 15:34:32 CDT (0) 36. This whole spa theme ... - carlymac 10/24/2008 10:48:59 CDT (5) Carol- I can completely understand. - zookeeper 10/24/2008 10:55:18 CDT (0) Oh Carol, that is so disappointing!!! I'm sorry you can't go hang with your friends... I understand that feeling (m) - kpmomof7 10/24/2008 11:01:18 CDT (0) (((Carol))) It stinks to feel left out, even when it's unintentional. (m) - joyofsix 10/24/2008 11:16:27 CDT (1) No need to feel bad about the daydreaming. I just thought the timing of this discussion was ironic. Carry-on with your cyber-vacation!! LOL (nt) - carlymac 10/24/2008 12:21:44 CDT (0) "Poor Lil Carol!!!"...(m) - Nosewiper 10/24/2008 11:59:12 CDT (0) I'm sorry Carol - - nancys6kids1dog 10/24/2008 13:48:44 CDT (0) 35. Another beautiful sunrise, another day with the swaying palm trees! Who wants to go shopping in the local boutiques? I'm handing out gift cards--what're you buying??? (nt) - Nosewiper 10/24/2008 09:35:26 CDT (8) Fun jewelry and a cute sundress to wear dancing later in the evening. Anyone want to go dancing? We could learn all the hot latin moves. (nt) - thequeenbeam 10/24/2008 09:40:12 CDT (1) Me, Me! I'll go dancing, but I want a flaming red dress and shoes to go with it! (nt) - live4truth13 10/24/2008 09:51:10 CDT (1) How could I have forgotten the shoes?! Good call. (nt) - thequeenbeam 10/24/2008 09:54:33 CDT (0) A fun straw bag. (nt) - carlymac 10/24/2008 09:58:43 CDT (0) Is there duty free rum? (nt) - joyofsix 10/24/2008 10:27:51 CDT (0) How did I miss that our spa was tropical?? I have enough palm trees every day of my life. I want mountains baby! (nt) - zookeeper 10/24/2008 10:41:09 CDT (2) But if we are tropical I'm buying dresses, a fantastic bikini that my body in my daydreams would look good in, and some great jewelry made locally. (nt) - zookeeper 10/24/2008 10:58:23 CDT (0) OK, so you're in Aspen! Geez!!! Wanna come to Detroit, instead? No mountains, but if you dislike palm trees, sunshine, and warm weather, it ought to be just right for you! Sending along a nasty old pilled-up sweater, so you'll fit right in! (nt) - Nosewiper 10/24/2008 11:13:51 CDT (1) Hey, I went out there in FEB -- go for it! (BTW, a friend in the Grand Rapids area told me it was 85 degrees there a few days ago!! Looks like some global warming is hitting the midwest.) (nt) - YankeeMom 10/24/2008 12:14:48 CDT (0) Little local trinkets to remind me of this fantastic vacation with my friends. (nt) - kpmomof7 10/24/2008 11:08:24 CDT (0) Nice full skirts, that sundress sounds great, maybe I'll have some carved furniture shipped home, and DEFINITELY I'll be looking for some handknit sweaters from the Andes! Do I have to go home??? (nt) - Nosewiper 10/24/2008 11:17:16 CDT (0) Now you're talking! ::forcing myself NOT to buy anything for the kids:: (nt) - YankeeMom 10/24/2008 12:12:46 CDT (0) T-shirts, a beautiful shell Christmas ornament (we get one where ever we go), and jewelry in the duty free shop! lol (nt) - nancys6kids1dog 10/24/2008 13:25:37 CDT (0) 34. Bacon apple pie??? - DebJZ 10/24/2008 08:39:46 CDT (2) I'm not sure if I'd like this one. Do you mean pies or food combos? (nt) - live4truth13 10/24/2008 09:53:20 CDT (0) I wouldn't eat it, but I know dh would. He's the master of weird (imo) combinations. (m) - kpmomof7 10/24/2008 10:58:31 CDT (0) 33. Could use some positive thoughts and prayers- - zookeeper 10/23/2008 19:05:43 CDT (5) Oh Dear, I will definitley say a prayer for your little one(m) - the11ofus 10/23/2008 20:09:24 CDT (0) praying (nt) - karanun 10/23/2008 20:28:04 CDT (0) Btdt, and your right, it's never easy or routine...prayers to you. nt - Lizzie11 10/23/2008 20:32:12 CDT (0) I'll be praying. - karin 10/23/2008 22:51:18 CDT (0) I'll say a prayer for Caroline, too. ((( Stacey ))) I hope the procedure goes smoothly & her recovery is swift. (nt) - kateunlogged 10/24/2008 03:47:29 CDT (1) Thank you all- - zookeeper 10/24/2008 08:15:27 CDT (5) So glad all went well!!! (nt) - Kendra 10/24/2008 08:24:44 CDT (0) glad everything went well!! (nt) - nancys6kids1dog 10/24/2008 08:27:20 CDT (0) So glad all went well. That anesthesia can be wicked to wake up out of for those little ones. (nt) - live4truth13 10/24/2008 09:46:52 CDT (0) Ooh, yes, I do know how cranky a baby in that situation is! lol I'm so happy to hear that everything went well for your sweet girl! (nt) - kpmomof7 10/24/2008 10:55:21 CDT (0) Aw, glad she is fine. It's scary to see your little one go under. (nt) - YankeeMom 10/24/2008 12:15:56 CDT (0) 32. We could use some prayers here, if you've got any to spare.... - shel 10/23/2008 18:21:49 CDT (7) ((hugs)) praying for healing for all. (nt) - zookeeper 10/23/2008 18:31:03 CDT (0) prayers for healing, comfort, and strength! (nt) - nancys6kids1dog 10/23/2008 18:51:17 CDT (0) Oh Shel, I will definitely be praying(m) - the11ofus 10/23/2008 20:10:39 CDT (0) praying I understand how hard it is to deal with depression in loved ones. (nt) - karanun 10/23/2008 20:30:03 CDT (0) Praying. (nt) - karin 10/23/2008 22:48:46 CDT (0) Absolutely, Shel! ((( warm hugs ))) I'm so sorry you're having to deal with this situation again. (nt) - kateunlogged 10/24/2008 03:46:23 CDT (0) Praying, Shel! (nt) - Nosewiper 10/24/2008 09:01:42 CDT (0) 31. Maybe we should pull out of Chicago! (m) - kpmomof7 10/23/2008 13:15:01 CDT (3) Take it from someone who lives in the Chicago Suburbs.,,,,m,,,,,, - dis5girls 10/23/2008 16:08:12 CDT (0) I'm surprised this hasn't been passed around sooner. It's pretty telling, I think. Thanks for sharing and keep passing it on. nt - shel 10/23/2008 16:54:59 CDT (0) I've forwarded it, very interesting, thanks. (nt) - momto6 10/24/2008 04:49:17 CDT (0) 30. Is your state one of the 10 worst for Healthcare? - nancys6kids1dog 10/23/2008 10:22:42 CDT (3) Hmmm...I suspected Az might be on the list considering the terrible care my mother received at one of the hospitals down there. But I only see the 8 worst, what are the other 2??? (nt) - live4truth13 10/23/2008 12:21:04 CDT (1) oops! - sorry, went back and looked at the list and sure enough, it was 8, not 10! lol (nt) - nancys6kids1dog 10/23/2008 12:55:56 CDT (0) Nope, Oregon isn't on the list. I have no complaints about our health care here. (nt) - kpmomof7 10/23/2008 13:00:35 CDT (0) I find the list pretty accurate, although I have no complaints about the heath care in my town (m) - leenieseven 10/23/2008 13:24:43 CDT (0) 29. Another day at the spa! Bring in the (handsome) waiters!!! What's your order? (And does anyone have any secret desire to leave the poolside and take a fancy cookery class?) (nt) - Nosewiper 10/23/2008 08:42:02 CDT (7) Lobster Ravioli with a creamy white wine sauce, asparagus, fresh baked rolls and a creme brulee for dessert. (nt) - zookeeper 10/23/2008 09:13:52 CDT (1) I'm eating with Stacey! Mmm. Hope that creamy sauce is garlicky, too, and let's order a caesar salad and a bottle of red wine to go with it! (nt) - PaulaK 10/23/2008 13:28:30 CDT (0) The only thing I hate worse than having some stranger rub all over me is cooking! (nt) - YankeeMom 10/23/2008 09:51:25 CDT (0) Some kind of fancy schmancy salad or something. And dessert. Tiramisu perhaps. No cooking class, leave me alone with the sun. (nt) - thequeenbeam 10/23/2008 09:59:43 CDT (0) Conquistador Calzone--Ricotta, Mozzarella, pepperoni, roasted red peppers, green chili, parmesan, wrapped in a brick oven baked pocket, fried ice cream for dessert (nt) - leenieseven 10/23/2008 10:03:55 CDT (0) think I'll start w/ a fruit plate, after my sun, I would like a beach bar-b-que buffet, oh, and LOTS of deserts to sample!! - throw in a steel drum band in the background. (nt) - nancys6kids1dog 10/23/2008 10:28:25 CDT (1) I'm coming to Nancy's spa ~ sounds perfect to me! (nt) - kpmomof7 10/23/2008 13:01:31 CDT (0) How about a seafood feast! I'm with Nancy, bring me a dessert buffet. (nt) - joyofsix 10/23/2008 11:40:46 CDT (0) I'd take a cooking class as long as I got to eat food that someone else made. (nt) - live4truth13 10/23/2008 12:22:14 CDT (0) 28. U/S update (m) - melsmunchkins 10/22/2008 21:21:01 CDT (8) Yay!!! So glad your little bean is looking so good! (nt) - karin 10/22/2008 22:44:11 CDT (0) Congrats!!! I'm so happy for you, Melanie! (nt) - kpmomof7 10/23/2008 01:39:35 CDT (0) OH THAT'S GREAT NEWS!! - in the first picture - it looks like s/he is laying on his/her back on a hammock w/ his/her head on his/her folded arms relaxing in the sun! praise!! and can't wait to hear your next update!! - so glad all is well! (nt) - nancys6kids1dog 10/23/2008 06:36:44 CDT (0) What amazingly clear pics, you must be totally in love that with sweetie. Thank you God for answered prayers! (nt) - Veronica 10/23/2008 07:07:24 CDT (0) Aww! Already a cutie. I know you are in love and a huge burden has been lifted. Yay! (nt) - nadiaryley 10/23/2008 07:39:39 CDT (0) Is it just me, or does everyone get all mushy and start longing for these days of miracle and wonder again when they see US pics? I am so happy that it was a great news for you! (nt) - zookeeper 10/23/2008 08:33:57 CDT (2) I know I do. Then again, I was actually envying LABOR earlier this week, and being sad that a friend (c-section) missed the experience. I think I'm gradually making peace with the pain in life, probably a good thing? CONGRATULATIONS, Melanie!!! Glad to hear all's well! (nt) - Nosewiper 10/23/2008 08:39:08 CDT (2) ((hug)) (nt) - zookeeper 10/23/2008 09:10:01 CDT (0) I've always been a little jealous of the C-Section ladies -- that's how much I HATE labor. (But it's not worth the surgery and recover in the end.) (nt) - YankeeMom 10/23/2008 09:50:41 CDT (3) I've had both and, for me, the C was so much easier. With labor, the pain gets worse and worse and still have pain even afterward. With C the pain gets better and better. I still have numbness around incision 6 yrs later though, which is annoying (nt) - leenieseven 10/23/2008 10:08:33 CDT (0) Having had 3 c-sections, I would say there's nothing to be jealous of. I hate having sections & the long-term complications (numbness, adhesions, nerve damage to bladder, etc). I'll take regular childbirth any day! (nt) - kpmomof7 10/23/2008 12:58:44 CDT (2) I didn't have nerve damage to the bladder. Is that a typical thing? (nt) - leenieseven 10/23/2008 13:04:45 CDT (1) Nope, it's not, though it is a risk that you accept when you sign the consent form. (nt) - kateunlogged 10/24/2008 03:42:26 CDT (0) That's why I say it's not worth it. I just hate going through labor and birth. (nt) - YankeeMom 10/23/2008 13:09:00 CDT (1) I hear ya! But the end product is sooooo worth it! :-) (nt) - kateunlogged 10/24/2008 03:43:38 CDT (0) Having done both too, I can tell you at least for me the pain from csec recovery is 10X worse not to mention longer time, it was absolutely horrible (nt) - Veronica 10/23/2008 14:12:11 CDT (0) I get all mushy, but I am content being estatic for the new mom. I have no more cravings for birthing my own babies. (nt) - Ranae 10/23/2008 10:25:22 CDT (0) Woo Hoo and what great pics!!! (nt) - karanunlog 10/23/2008 09:36:19 CDT (0) So happy for you Melanie! Those are amazing photos. (nt) - live4truth13 10/23/2008 12:22:47 CDT (0) 27. Anyone want to see more wedding photos? - live4truth13 10/22/2008 16:19:06 CDT (12) Joanne, they are gorgeous. What a beautiful couple. (nt) - thequeenbeam 10/22/2008 17:04:31 CDT (0) Beautiful! (nt) - shel 10/22/2008 17:34:24 CDT (0) Fantastic what a beautiful wedding!!!! (nt) - karanunlogged 10/22/2008 17:43:01 CDT (0) oh, wow - beautiful!!! thanks for sharing!! (nt) - nancys6kids1dog 10/22/2008 17:59:48 CDT (0) Breathtaking! Her gown is so gorgeous, classy and sophisticated! (nt) - zookeeper 10/22/2008 18:16:29 CDT (0) Oh Joanne, they are just beautiful(m) - the11ofus 10/22/2008 19:27:37 CDT (1) They are, at least for the next 4 months. Then they have plans to go to S. Korea. (nt) - live4truth13 10/23/2008 12:23:52 CDT (0) Ooooh, pretty! Thanks for showing us! (nt) - carlymac 10/22/2008 19:34:46 CDT (0) They're a beautiful couple & look so happy! Truly lovely pictures, Joanne!!! (nt) - kateunlogged 10/22/2008 21:19:05 CDT (0) Absolutely beautiful! I've been waiting to see more! TFS! (nt) - melsmunchkins 10/22/2008 21:22:11 CDT (0) Thanks so much for sharing! Beautiful! (nt) - karin 10/22/2008 22:52:15 CDT (0) Oh how beautiful -- the couple are BEAMING! (nt) - YankeeMom 10/23/2008 09:52:15 CDT (0) Thanks everyone! I also posted a few dancing pics on my blog, lol. (nt) - live4truth13 10/23/2008 12:25:47 CDT (1) I love the picture of you dancing, btw... you look so happy! (nt) - kpmomof7 10/23/2008 13:02:28 CDT (0) 26. Totally political but a joke...I do not vote on party lines myself but please enjoy this... - DebJZ 10/22/2008 10:14:48 CDT (6) LOL! (nt) - leenieseven 10/22/2008 10:22:11 CDT (0) Hilarious! (nt) - shel 10/22/2008 11:13:29 CDT (0) Ha! Love it (must share.) (nt) - YankeeMom 10/22/2008 12:48:39 CDT (0) Just so the Republicans don't feel slighted- here's their version: - zookeeper 10/22/2008 13:04:57 CDT (2) Ah, but this Republican drives a hybrid ... LOL! I was wondering how long it would take for you to post a Republican one. (nt) - Ranae 10/22/2008 13:31:52 CDT (0) Ah, not as funny -- mainly because that person doesn't write as well. (They should have hired Obama's people -- he cracked me up at the roast.) (nt) - YankeeMom 10/22/2008 18:13:18 CDT (0) Here's another one - leenieseven 10/22/2008 13:31:28 CDT (2) ... (nt) - YankeeMom 10/22/2008 18:17:20 CDT (0) I am going to feel so vindicated on November 5th. Anyone want to discuss how Palin once AGAIN messed up the duties of the job she's applying for? (nt) - zookeeper 10/22/2008 18:21:22 CDT (1) Don't be so confident. The AP has McCain within 2 pts. That means he's leading. (Can anyone say "Bradley Effect?") (nt) - YankeeMom 10/22/2008 20:40:23 CDT (1) Nope. Rasmussen is far more accurate. They have a larger polling sample and higher pollster ratings. They are calling it 51-45 Obama. - zookeeper 10/22/2008 22:19:47 CDT (3) Umm..I think this is an endorsement the Republican campaign could have done without. (nt) - zookeeper 10/22/2008 22:56:29 CDT (0) LOL, I guess you forgot how all the polls -- including Rasmussen -- called it for Gore and Kerry, too. (nt) - YankeeMom 10/23/2008 09:53:31 CDT (0) I don't trust weighted polls..m - lizzie11 10/23/2008 10:01:03 CDT (3) Rasmussen goes on to explain that they also track data without the weighting. - zookeeper 10/23/2008 10:38:07 CDT (1) That was in June, have they analysed it since then??? nt - Lizzie11 10/23/2008 11:08:06 CDT (2) Here is a good article on this weighty problem...m - Lizzie11 10/23/2008 11:37:50 CDT (1) Wait a second- the posting contradicts itself: - zookeeper 10/23/2008 13:01:40 CDT (1) ABC\Wp poll....more flawed logic.. - Lizzie11 10/23/2008 13:48:38 CDT (1) So, how about the margin of errors less than 2? Because there are a huge smattering of those- like Rasmussen. And the AP poll Kristin mentioned has an even higher margin of error of +3. (nt) - zookeeper 10/23/2008 18:45:12 CDT (1) I have an issue with polls in general..m - Lizzie11 10/23/2008 19:29:47 CDT (0) I believe it says they do a rolling analysis, and there is a chart in the link. (nt) - zookeeper 10/23/2008 12:46:08 CDT (0) 538.com .There could not be a more complete statistical analysis. This guy's got his game on- it's dizzying! (nt) - zookeeper 10/23/2008 10:59:32 CDT (1) And he also is a Democrat....m - Lizzie11 10/23/2008 11:14:42 CDT (1) He's not conducting a poll. He's conducting statistical analysis on all the polls others conduct, using the same methodology they do for baseball predictions. I find it very interesting. (nt) - zookeeper 10/23/2008 12:34:40 CDT (1) No you are missing the point...m - Lizzie11 10/23/2008 13:28:18 CDT (1) So you have a problem with them taking several samplings of population over a period of time, averaging it and using that for their target percentages? - zookeeper 10/23/2008 13:53:56 CDT (1) I don't trust polls period, not even your guy 538...I think bias comes in... - Lizzie11 10/23/2008 14:11:10 CDT (0) You know, the thing about all the polls is this...... - shel 10/23/2008 11:22:41 CDT (2) I think you should avoid making large assumptions. - zoounlogged 10/23/2008 13:43:49 CDT (1) Why do you have a problem with me telling the truth? I don't see anything wrong with what I said. (nt) - shel 10/23/2008 16:57:04 CDT (1) And you know, I'm kind of tired of being told that I should avoid speaking my mind. I'm kind of sick of having people shove their opinions down my throat, especially the Obama worshipping media. I have a right to speak my mind just like you do. It doesn't make me a racist. I hate racism and like I said, it's sad that it comes down to that. (nt) - shel 10/23/2008 17:02:32 CDT (1) I feel the need to apologize for sounding so snotty...lots of crap going on here- sorry about the tone of my post. (nt) - shel 10/23/2008 18:23:00 CDT (1) Shel - - zookeeper 10/23/2008 18:37:01 CDT (0) Same here......m - luvinmylife 10/23/2008 14:42:52 CDT (2) I love my neighborhood....At one end is the "rich" section near the yacht clubs and such, and the lawns are covered with McCain/Palin signs and Obama/Biden signs pretty equally. - karin 10/23/2008 16:24:30 CDT (0) Our sign was very close to our front door and it wasn't just stolen, it was hatefully torn to shreds. I don't know why people would be so offended by a sign, unless like I said, they believe we are part of the KKK or something. (nt) - shel 10/23/2008 16:59:05 CDT (0) Here's one we can all agree on: - nancys6kids1dog 10/22/2008 14:38:03 CDT (3) That about sums it up! ;-) (nt) - shel 10/22/2008 17:34:57 CDT (0) LOL! (nt) - zookeeper 10/22/2008 18:14:11 CDT (0) ROFL! (nt) - karin 10/23/2008 16:25:17 CDT (0) 25. Asking for prayers for baby and me today. (m) - melsmunchkins 10/22/2008 09:41:43 CDT (12) Prayers. (nt) - DebJZ 10/22/2008 10:01:18 CDT (0) prayers (nt) - karan 10/22/2008 10:15:19 CDT (0) ((mel)) and prayers! (nt) - msjennbug 10/22/2008 10:17:05 CDT (0) Prayers, Melanie. (nt) - nadiaryley 10/22/2008 10:17:14 CDT (0) prayers! - comfort, health, and a great view of your precious little one! (nt) - nancys6kids1dog 10/22/2008 10:24:34 CDT (0) I am praying that this visit with your new growing bean is nothing but blessedly beautiful and good news! (nt) - zookeeper 10/22/2008 10:27:28 CDT (0) Prayers! (nt) - karin 10/22/2008 10:33:23 CDT (0) Absolutely, you got them! (nt) - live4truth13 10/22/2008 10:49:20 CDT (0) Keeping you in prayer, Melanie. (nt) - shel 10/22/2008 11:14:08 CDT (0) Praying. (nt) - joyofsix 10/22/2008 12:03:09 CDT (0) Praying, Melanie! Enjoy seeing your little bundle-to-be!!! (nt) - Nosewiper 10/22/2008 12:28:52 CDT (0) I remember those feelings. Hoping and praying all is well. (nt) - carlymac 10/22/2008 12:56:05 CDT (0) 24. Another little snippet from my life this morning... - carlymac 10/22/2008 09:39:39 CDT (5) lol - my dh "pocket calls" me often - usually, its too garbled to make out much! lol (nt) - nancys6kids1dog 10/22/2008 10:26:29 CDT (0) LOL, oh my. I only get those from my youngest daughter from school, - live4truth13 10/22/2008 10:51:27 CDT (0) Aack! Those can get so annoying! I once had to call the mega-mart and have them convey a message to the cashier on aisle 17, because her phone was driving me batty--chatter and Bip-Bip-Bip-Bip from her price scanner, and our minutes being eaten as she went! (nt) - Nosewiper 10/22/2008 12:59:44 CDT (0) Heehee...I got a "pocket call" from my oldest dd this afternoon. It was a little scary to hear the noises of a high school hallway! (nt) - karin 10/22/2008 22:54:40 CDT (0) My mother did this once from work and started to think she was going crazy when she kept hearing her name called (me, YELLING as loud as I could) but couldn't figure out from who or where.....and she works in a psychiatric unit! (nt) - momto6 10/23/2008 04:21:03 CDT (1) Now that's HILARIOUS! (nt) - leenieseven 10/23/2008 07:25:41 CDT (0) 23. So, does this cross the line? - zookeeper 10/22/2008 09:39:20 CDT (1) How about a link to the initiative... - DebJZ 10/22/2008 10:09:06 CDT (1) Also, since this is a state regulation, it cannot over-ride federal medical record privacy laws. (nt) - DebJZ 10/22/2008 10:11:36 CDT (1) Well, if it's a state initiative then SD residents need not worry because - zookeeper 10/22/2008 10:26:03 CDT (1) I am not a lawyer but I do believe Roe V Wade would 'trump' the initiative but - DebJZ 10/22/2008 10:48:32 CDT (0) 22. Happy Birthday Denise! Hope you have a wonderful day. (nt) - live4truth13 10/22/2008 08:51:10 CDT (6) Happy Birthday! Have a great day! (nt) - joyofsix 10/22/2008 09:00:05 CDT (0) Happy birthday! (nt) - melsmunchkins 10/22/2008 09:17:01 CDT (0) Happy Birthday! (nt) - nancys6kids1dog 10/22/2008 09:27:11 CDT (0) Happy Birthday! Hope it was wonderful!! (nt) - zookeeper 10/22/2008 10:02:13 CDT (0) happy birthday!!! (nt) - karan 10/22/2008 10:20:25 CDT (0) Happy Happy Birthday, from all of us to you! We wish it were our birthday, so we could party too! (nt) - Nosewiper 10/22/2008 13:00:43 CDT (0) 21. Extreme Home makeover is filming 15 minutes from me right now (town where I do my shopping, church, etc.) - Ranae 10/22/2008 07:47:21 CDT (2) That's a really sweet story. - carlymac 10/22/2008 08:19:34 CDT (0) Cool! My kids love that show, and EHM did a house about 30 min from us a couple years ago. We took the kids there one afternoon while they were building it. (nt) - melsmunchkins 10/22/2008 09:18:06 CDT (0) 20. It's Activity Time at the TOK Spa! What would you like to do, that you haven't done in a very long time? Horseback riding, anyone? Para-Sailing? (nt) - Nosewiper 10/22/2008 07:21:40 CDT (8) I would like to become certified to scuba dive! (nt) - nancys6kids1dog 10/22/2008 08:09:35 CDT (0) Forget the activities, I'd like 6 weeks with a personal trainer, at a ranch where delicious weight loss meals are served and I come back looking amazing. (Did you notice I didn't lose any weight before the wedding???) (nt) - live4truth13 10/22/2008 08:21:28 CDT (2) Oh, that sounds SO good! D'ya think we could get our insurance to cover it? Might be cheaper than a triple bypass! (nt) - Nosewiper 10/22/2008 11:48:54 CDT (1) . (nt) - gelsum 10/22/2008 12:25:43 CDT (0) Me too!!! (nt) - FrankieG 10/22/2008 12:52:18 CDT (0) Water-skiing for me! And I'll take a ride on a sweet old mare followed by 9 holes of golf. (nt) - carlymac 10/22/2008 08:23:11 CDT (0) Do they do scrapbooking at spas? If not, I vote for it! That's what I would do if I had my own uninterrupted time. (nt) - ckmom 10/22/2008 08:40:22 CDT (1) This sounds good to me- I miss being able to scrapbook. (nt) - zookeeper 10/22/2008 08:45:39 CDT (0) Hiking! Swimming without head counting every 10 seconds, canoeing, heck I'd try the para-sailing! Or how about a jet ski! (nt) - joyofsix 10/22/2008 09:02:01 CDT (1) Oh jet skiing!! I forgot about that one. No muscles needed. All you have to do is sit and let the wild woman in you come out!! (nt) - carlymac 10/22/2008 09:32:19 CDT (0) I just want to lie in a hammock on the beach and listen to the waves crashing against the shore (nt) - leenieseven 10/22/2008 10:25:36 CDT (0) Sleeping in the sun? Is that an activity? (nt) - thequeenbeam 10/22/2008 10:36:15 CDT (0) um..... shower? LOL It seems so long since my last one.... that was yesterday. - gelsum 10/22/2008 12:25:27 CDT (0) 19. Carol, you mentioned Dan in Real Life was a good movie. I have a similar story.... - leenieseven 10/21/2008 14:03:56 CDT (1) Now that's a tangled web!! - carlymac 10/21/2008 15:05:14 CDT (0) 18. Couple of questions... - debjzunlogged 10/21/2008 11:04:12 CDT (10) Deb, I just wanted to send you a (((HUG))). (nt) - ckmom 10/21/2008 11:35:40 CDT (1) Thank you! (nt) - DebJZ 10/21/2008 12:06:19 CDT (0) (((Hugs))) m - joyofsix 10/21/2008 11:54:50 CDT (1) Thank you... - DebJZ 10/21/2008 12:14:51 CDT (0) More ((HUGS)) here--you are having a hard time. My ideas (m) - PaulaK 10/21/2008 11:55:01 CDT (5) Yep, yep, yep - the10ofus 10/21/2008 12:15:03 CDT (1) We went to family out in the country over the weekend... - DebJZ 10/21/2008 12:23:22 CDT (2) Good for your dh(m) - the10ofus 10/21/2008 12:31:06 CDT (1) OOPs(m) - the10ofus 10/21/2008 12:32:31 CDT (0) Was that a "best friend" or "boy friend" your dd went out with? (nt) - carlymac 10/21/2008 12:42:26 CDT (1) boy... - DebJZ 10/21/2008 13:00:32 CDT (1) I'd be worried about that, too. (nt) - carlymac 10/21/2008 13:18:15 CDT (0) I think these are great ideas... - mirkyunlog 10/21/2008 12:16:27 CDT (1) Thank you, it is hard and I am exhausted from the battling, - DebJZ 10/21/2008 12:28:14 CDT (2) Wants to be PG?? Has she said why? (nt) - carlymac 10/21/2008 13:22:29 CDT (0) It is just what I think... - DebJZ 10/21/2008 13:46:01 CDT (2) Oh boy and oh boys!! Prayers for her and you! (nt) - carlymac 10/21/2008 14:00:49 CDT (0) You could see if your school has one of those programs where teens take a "baby" home that records how they care for it. Visiting and volunteering at a teen pregnancy home is another option. (nt) - zookeeper 10/21/2008 22:21:55 CDT (0) Thank you for the helpful advise, - DebJZ 10/21/2008 12:19:14 CDT (1) Ahh, poor kid. That does make them whiney! Enjoy your quiet time while you have it. (nt) - carlymac 10/21/2008 13:24:14 CDT (0) Chiming in to say I absolutely agree with Paula regarding your teens (and the nursing, as well). (m) - kpmomof7 10/21/2008 12:53:45 CDT (1) I remembered what you said... - DebJZ 10/21/2008 13:07:29 CDT (0) I think Paula is right about the teens. - zookeeper 10/21/2008 22:26:57 CDT (0) First of all... - carlymac 10/21/2008 12:02:37 CDT (2) Carol dear, find your glasses! - it says MONTH not year - lol - and how are those adorable little girls of yours? - hope K is going well! - Lauren is having a ball. (nt) - nancys6kids1dog 10/21/2008 12:06:59 CDT (1) I caught that before I posted. I was kidding. (nt) - carlymac 10/21/2008 12:20:32 CDT (0) Just ran across this... - carlymac 10/21/2008 13:58:04 CDT (1) - I would agree w/ that - - nancys6kids1dog 10/21/2008 14:54:44 CDT (1) You're right. I guess I was lucky cause my babies went from one to the other without missing a beat. The only thing was I couldn't be the one to give them the bottle. It had to be someone else. (nt) - carlymac 10/21/2008 15:09:40 CDT (0) well, what do I know? - lol - a few rambling thoughts>> - nancys6kids1dog 10/21/2008 12:19:16 CDT (1) OH and most importantly>> - nancys6kids1dog 10/21/2008 12:19:58 CDT (1) Thank you... - DebJZ 10/21/2008 12:34:48 CDT (0) ((hugs)) - karan 10/21/2008 13:48:05 CDT (0) I have one question, Deb--Why aren't /don't you homeschool your teens, if you are hsing your other kids? Especially if your dd wants you to. What schools did you just switch her from/to? (nt) - PaulaK 10/21/2008 17:31:31 CDT (1) They are in high school.. - DebJZ 10/21/2008 17:51:01 CDT (1) Debbie (m) - Christine 10/21/2008 18:51:07 CDT (0) I had super-ejector letdown too.... - blairzoo-unlog 10/21/2008 21:28:02 CDT (0) Well, I think you deserve Jenn's virtual spa day hands down more than anyone right now. I have no answers for you, but wanted to offer a hug. (nt) - zookeeper 10/21/2008 22:19:20 CDT (0) I just have a hug for you, and will probably repeat some advise you've already gotten. - karin 10/21/2008 22:54:52 CDT (0) 17. Interesting and funny. - carlymac 10/21/2008 10:32:56 CDT (2) I love frosted grass!!!! (nt) - karan 10/21/2008 10:58:48 CDT (0) My funny... - debjzunlogged 10/21/2008 11:07:31 CDT (0) 16. Spa Treatments for All!!! What do you want done? Nails? Mud bath? Herbal wraps? I think we'll all line up for massage! Take your pick! (nt) - Nosewiper 10/21/2008 09:46:46 CDT (10) I need a full-service on my hair, please!!! And my shoulders and neck are killin' me...probably need a step beyond massage to physical therapy. Too bad the kid doesn't have her degree for another 6 years or so! (nt) - Nosewiper 10/21/2008 09:48:15 CDT (0) The whole ball of wax!! Wait..., I'll pass on the mud bath. (nt) - carlymac 10/21/2008 09:56:22 CDT (1) Is there waxing included? Maybe I'll get my eyebrows done. LOL (nt) - isaidstopit 10/21/2008 10:29:23 CDT (1) Ow! No way for me! (nt) - carlymac 10/21/2008 11:09:35 CDT (1) Tried waxing my legs once. Hurt too much. I can't imagine having other areas done! (nt) - zookeeper 10/21/2008 11:15:54 CDT (1) I need my toes waxed! (nt) - nancys6kids1dog 10/21/2008 12:02:31 CDT (0) NONE. Can't abide strangers to touch me. ::shudder:: (nt) - YankeeMom 10/21/2008 10:01:42 CDT (1) I agree. I'd leave a massage more tense than when I went in. (nt) - momto6 10/21/2008 19:10:47 CDT (0) DH's aunt actually paid for and bought me a half day at a local spa. I haven't gone yet because it includes a massage, wrap, facial and manicure and I have no nails to manicure. LOL But the rest sounds perfect! (nt) - zookeeper 10/21/2008 10:14:00 CDT (0) All of it! Although I'm worried the herbal wrap will make me hungry.... (nt) - isaidstopit 10/21/2008 10:23:05 CDT (0) Blech! I'm with Kristin (nt) - leenieseven 10/21/2008 10:35:39 CDT (0) can we make this a spa weekend? I don't think they could fix me in a couple of hours. LOL (nt) - karan 10/21/2008 10:57:45 CDT (0)